이틀전 캘리포니아 주립대 샌프란시스코 생물공학 패널에서 간염병 전문가들이 다룬 내용이라고 회사에서 받은 이메일 공유합니다. 바쁘신 분들은 굵은 글씨체만 보셔도 될거같아요.
일단 바이러스를 봉쇄하기엔 너무 늦었답니다. 지금 할수 있는 최선은 번지는 속도를 최대한 줄여서 의료시스템이 마비되지 않도록, 그리고 그안에 약이 만들어 지도록 시간을 버는것 뿐이라네요.
지금 미국은 일주일 전 이태리의 상황과 다를바가 없답니다. 미국이 이태리와는 다를거라는 징후가 하나도 없대요. 이미 퍼질대로 퍼졌고 이제 환자들이 급격하게 늘 일만 남은거라고 합니다.
앞으로 12개월 안에 미국전체 인구의 40-70프로가 감염된다고 보고있고 치사율은 독감의 10배로써 12-18개월안에 미국 인구의 150만명 정도가 사망할거라고 추정하는거에 패널 중 아무도 의의를 제기하기 않았답니다 (독감으로는 미국에서 1년에 평균 5만명정도가 죽는답니다). 그후가 되어야 herd immunity 가 생길거라고 본답니다.
앞으로 12-18개월의 우리의 삶은 완전히 바뀔거라고 하네요. 여름에 수글어들었다가 가을에 다시 창궐하기 시작할거라고 추정한답니다. 나아지기 전에 상황은 최악으로 내몰릴텐데 아직 우린 시작도 안했구요.
테스트킷 턱업이 부족하고 아프다고 병원에 간다해도 지금 해줄수 있는게 없을거랍니다. 자가격리하고 집에서 쉬면서 간호하래요.
다음 플루시즌 시작하기전에 플루샷을 꼭 맞는게 좋답니다. 코로나를 예방하진 않겠지만 시즈널 독감에 걸리면 그만큼 체내 면역력이 떨어지는데 그 상태에 코로나에도 걸리면 치사율이 높아지기 때문이랍니다.
페렴 백신도 도움이 될수 있다고 본답니다. 코로나에 걸리면 일단 페렴으로 전이되는게 보통이라서 그런듯요. 그리고 중국이 사스때보다는 그나마 조금 더 투명하게 수치를 공개하고 있다고 하네요 (물론 제 개인적인 생각은 이 수치 조차도 많이 조작된거겠지만요)
University
of California, San Francisco BioHub Panel on COVID-19
March
10, 2020
Panelists
- Joe DeRisi:
UCSF’s top infectious disease researcher. Co-president of
ChanZuckerberg BioHub (a JV involving UCSF / Berkeley / Stanford).
Co-inventor of the chip used in SARS epidemic.
- Emily Crawford:
COVID task force director. Focused on diagnostics
- Cristina Tato:
Rapid Response Director. Immunologist.
- Patrick Ayescue:
Leading outbreak response and surveillance.
Epidemiologist.
- Chaz Langelier:
UCSF Infectious Disease doc
What’s
below are essentially direct quotes from the panelists. I bracketed the
few things that are not quotes.
- At this point, we are
past containment. Containment is basically futile.
Our containment efforts won’t reduce the number who get
infected in the US.
- Now
we’re just trying to slow the spread, to help healthcare
providers deal with the demand peak. In other words, the goal of
containment is to "flatten the curve", to lower the peak of the
surge of demand that will hit healthcare providers. And to buy time,
in hopes a drug can be developed.
- How many in the
community already have the virus? No one knows.
- We are moving from
containment to care.
- We in the US are
currently where at where Italy was a week ago. We see nothing to
say we will be substantially different.
- 40-70% of the US
population will be infected over the next 12-18 months. After that
level you can start to get herd immunity. Unlike flu this is
entirely novel to humans, so there is no latent immunity in the global
population.
- [We used their numbers
to work out a guesstimate of deaths— indicating about
1.5 million Americans may die. The panelists did not disagree
with our estimate. This compares to seasonal flu’s average of
50K Americans per year. Assume 50% of US population, that’s 160M people
infected. With 1% mortality rate that's 1.6M Americans die over the
next 12-18 months.]
- The fatality rate is
in the range of 10X flu.
- This assumes no drug
is found effective and made available.
- The death rate varies
hugely by age. Over age 80 the mortality rate could be
10-15%. [See
chart by age Signe found online, attached at bottom.]
- Don’t know whether
COVID-19 is seasonal but if is and subsides over the summer, it is likely
to roar back in fall as the 1918 flu did
- I can only tell you two
things definitively. Definitively it’s going to get worse before it
gets better. And we'll be dealing with this for the next year at
least. Our lives are going to look different for the next year.
- What should we do now? What are you doing for
your family?
- Appears one can be
infectious before being symptomatic. We don’t know how infectious
before symptomatic, but know that highest level of virus prevalence
coincides with symptoms. We currently think folks are infectious 2
days before through 14 days after onset of symptoms (T-2 to T+14 onset).
- How long does the virus
last?
- On surfaces, best
guess is 4-20 hours depending on surface type (maybe a few days) but
still no consensus on this
- The virus is very
susceptible to common anti-bacterial cleaning agents: bleach,
hydrogen peroxide, alcohol-based.
- Avoid concerts, movies,
crowded places.
- We have cancelled
business travel.
- Do the basic hygiene,
eg hand washing and avoiding touching face.
- Stockpile your critical
prescription medications. Many pharma supply chains run through
China. Pharma companies usually hold 2-3 months of raw materials,
so may run out given the disruption in China’s manufacturing.
- Pneumonia shot might be
helpful. Not preventative of COVID-19, but reduces your chance of
being weakened, which makes COVID-19 more dangerous.
- Get a flu shot next
fall. Not preventative of COVID-19, but reduces your chance of
being weakened, which makes COVID-19 more dangerous.
- We would say “Anyone
over 60 stay at home unless it’s critical”. CDC toyed with idea of
saying anyone over 60 not travel on commercial airlines.
- We at UCSF are moving
our “at-risk” parents back from nursing homes, etc. to their own homes. Then are not
letting them out of the house. The other members of the family are
washing hands the moment they come in.
- Three routes of
infection
- Hand to mouth / face
- Aerosol transmission
- Fecal oral route
- If someone gets sick,
have them stay home and socially isolate. There is very little you
can do at a hospital that you couldn’t do at home. Most cases are
mild. But if they are old or have lung or cardio-vascular problems,
read on.
- If someone gets quite
sick who is old (70+) or with lung or cardio-vascular problems, take them
to the ER.
- There is no accepted
treatment for COVID-19. The hospital will give supportive care (eg
IV fluids, oxygen) to help you stay alive while your body fights the
disease. ie to prevent sepsis.
- If someone gets sick
who is high risk (eg is both old and has lung/cardio-vascular problems),
you can try to get them enrolled for “compassionate use" of
Remdesivir, a drug that is in clinical trial at San Francisco General and
UCSF, and in China. Need to find a doc there in order to ask to
enroll. Remdesivir is an anti-viral from Gilead that showed
effectiveness against MERS in primates and is being tried against
COVID-19. If the trials succeed it might be available for next
winter as production scales up far faster for drugs than for vaccines.
[More I found
online.]
- Why is the fatality
rate much higher for older adults?
- Your immune system
declines past age 50
- Fatality rate tracks
closely with “co-morbidity”, ie the presence of other conditions that
compromise the patient’s hearth, especially respiratory or cardio-vascular
illness. These conditions are higher in older adults.
- Risk of pneumonia is
higher in older adults.
- What about testing to know if someone has
COVID-19?
- Bottom line, there is
not enough testing capacity to be broadly useful. Here’s why.
- Currently, there is no
way to determine what a person has other than a PCR test. No other
test can yet distinguish "COVID-19 from flu or from the other dozen
respiratory bugs that are circulating”.
- A Polymerase Chain
Reaction (PCR) test can detect COVID-19’s RNA. However they still
don’t have confidence in the test’s specificity, ie they don’t know the
rate of false negatives.
- The PCR test requires
kits with reagents and requires clinical labs to process the kits.
- While the kits are
becoming available, the lab capacity is not growing.
- The leading clinical
lab firms, Quest and Labcore have capacity to process 1000 kits per
day. For the nation.
- Expanding processing
capacity takes “time, space, and equipment.” And certification.
ie it won’t happen soon.
- UCSF and UCBerkeley
have donated their research labs to process kits. But each has
capacity to process only 20-40 kits per day. And are not clinically
certified.
- Novel test methods are
on the horizon, but not here now and won’t be at any scale to be useful
for the present danger.
- How well is society preparing for the impact?
- Local hospitals are
adding capacity as we speak. UCSF’s Parnassus campus has erected
“triage tents” in a parking lot. They have converted a ward to
“negative pressure” which is needed to contain the virus. They are
considering re-opening the shuttered Mt Zion facility.
- If COVID-19 affected
children then we would be seeing mass departures of families from
cities. But thankfully now we know that kids are not affected.
- School closures are one
the biggest societal impacts. We need to be thoughtful before we
close schools, especially elementary schools because of the knock-on
effects. If elementary kids are not in school then some hospital
staff can’t come to work, which decreases hospital capacity at a time of
surging demand for hospital services.
- Public Health systems
are prepared to deal with short-term outbreaks that last for weeks, like
an outbreak of meningitis. They do not have the capacity to sustain
for outbreaks that last for months. Other solutions will have to be
found.
- What will we do to
handle behavior changes that can last for months?
- Many employees will
need to make accommodations for elderly parents and those with
underlying conditions and immune-suppressed.
- Kids home due to
school closures
- [Dr. DeRisi had to
leave the meeting for a call with the governor’s office. When he
returned we asked what the call covered.] The epidemiological
models the state is using to track and trigger action. The state is
planning at what point they will take certain actions. ie what will
trigger an order to cease any gatherings of over 1000 people.
- Where do you find reliable news?
- The John Hopkins Center
for Health Security site.
Which posts daily updates. The site says you can sign up to
receive a daily newsletter on COVID-19 by email. [I tried and the
page times out due to high demand. After three more tries I was
successful in registering for the newsletter.]
- The New York Times is
good on scientific accuracy.
- Unlike during SARS,
China’s scientists are publishing openly and accurately on COVID-19.
- While China’s early
reports on incidence were clearly low, that seems to trace to their data
management systems being overwhelmed, not to any bad intent.
- Wuhan has 4.3 beds per
thousand while US has 2.8 beds per thousand. Wuhan built 2
additional hospitals in 2 weeks. Even so, most patients were sent
to gymnasiums to sleep on cots.
- Early on no one had
info on COVID-19. So China reacted in a way unique modern history,
except in wartime.
- Every few years there seems another: SARS, Ebola,
MERS, H1N1, COVID-19. Growing strains of antibiotic resistant
bacteria. Are we in the twilight of a century of medicine’s great
triumph over infectious disease?
- "We’ve been in a
back and forth battle against viruses for a million years."
- But it would sure help
if every country would shut down their wet markets.
- As with many things,
the worst impact of COVID-19 will likely be in the countries with the
least resources, eg Africa. See article on Wired magazine on
sequencing of virus from Cambodia.
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