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작년말 부터 두번 올린적이 있는데 내용 Update 되었네요. 아주 재미있습니다..
http://patrick.net/housing/crash.html
25. "My dad made money on his house, and it will work for me too."
FALSE. Your dad bought his house when houses were cheap compared to salaries, maybe 3 or 4 times annual salaries. Go ask him. Things are different now. Here is a chart of median house price vs median income in Palo Alto:
Year Median House Price Median Income Multiple
1980 148900 24743 6.0
1990 457800 55333 8.3
2000 910000 90377 10.0
Most bankers use a multiple of 3 as a "safe" price to income ratio. We are well beyond the danger zone, into the twilight zone. Another rule of thumb is that a fair house price is 125 times the monthly rent. If a house rents for $2000 per month, then a fair price is $250,000.
18. "The house down the street sold for 25% over asking, and that proves the market is still hot."
FALSE. Realtors?try to create the false impression of a hot market by deliberately "underpricing" a house. Say a seller's agent knows that house will probably go for $500,000. He places ads asking $400,000 instead. (Bait-and-switch is illegal when selling toasters, but apparently not when selling houses.) The goal is to first of all prevent buyers from knowing what a realistic price is, and secondly to get buyers to blindly bid against each other. There are four players in this game and three of them are against the buyer: the seller, the seller's agent, and the buyer's agent. Yes, the buyer's own agent works against the buyer, because there is no commission if there is no sale. There's a saying in Las Vegas: "There's a patsy in every game, and if you don't know who the patsy is, you're it."
If you want to prove your agent is not on your side, ask to see houses "for sale by owner" or houses listed by discount brokers.
20. "The MLS proves things are great."
FALSE. All sorts of funny things happen in the MLS (Multiple Listing Service, a private database controlled by real estate agents). For example, if a house just doesn't sell, Realtors?can remove its record in the MLS so that you cannot see that it failed to sell. Then the house comes back on the market at a lower price, and unsuspecting buyers think it's on the market for the first time. Their Realtor?can "prove" it's a new listing by showing the MLS record to the buyer: "See, here's the listing date, just came on the market. Better hurry and buy it, this one is hot."
22. "Rich Chinese (or Europeans, or Arabs) are driving up housing prices."
FALSE. The percentage of US houses bought by rich foreigners for investment is tiny. Furthermore, American housing is clearly a bad investment at this point. Rich foreign investors are not dumb enough to buy into a badly overpriced market, but your broker is hoping that you are.
http://patrick.net/housing/crash.html
25. "My dad made money on his house, and it will work for me too."
FALSE. Your dad bought his house when houses were cheap compared to salaries, maybe 3 or 4 times annual salaries. Go ask him. Things are different now. Here is a chart of median house price vs median income in Palo Alto:
Year Median House Price Median Income Multiple
1980 148900 24743 6.0
1990 457800 55333 8.3
2000 910000 90377 10.0
Most bankers use a multiple of 3 as a "safe" price to income ratio. We are well beyond the danger zone, into the twilight zone. Another rule of thumb is that a fair house price is 125 times the monthly rent. If a house rents for $2000 per month, then a fair price is $250,000.
18. "The house down the street sold for 25% over asking, and that proves the market is still hot."
FALSE. Realtors?try to create the false impression of a hot market by deliberately "underpricing" a house. Say a seller's agent knows that house will probably go for $500,000. He places ads asking $400,000 instead. (Bait-and-switch is illegal when selling toasters, but apparently not when selling houses.) The goal is to first of all prevent buyers from knowing what a realistic price is, and secondly to get buyers to blindly bid against each other. There are four players in this game and three of them are against the buyer: the seller, the seller's agent, and the buyer's agent. Yes, the buyer's own agent works against the buyer, because there is no commission if there is no sale. There's a saying in Las Vegas: "There's a patsy in every game, and if you don't know who the patsy is, you're it."
If you want to prove your agent is not on your side, ask to see houses "for sale by owner" or houses listed by discount brokers.
20. "The MLS proves things are great."
FALSE. All sorts of funny things happen in the MLS (Multiple Listing Service, a private database controlled by real estate agents). For example, if a house just doesn't sell, Realtors?can remove its record in the MLS so that you cannot see that it failed to sell. Then the house comes back on the market at a lower price, and unsuspecting buyers think it's on the market for the first time. Their Realtor?can "prove" it's a new listing by showing the MLS record to the buyer: "See, here's the listing date, just came on the market. Better hurry and buy it, this one is hot."
22. "Rich Chinese (or Europeans, or Arabs) are driving up housing prices."
FALSE. The percentage of US houses bought by rich foreigners for investment is tiny. Furthermore, American housing is clearly a bad investment at this point. Rich foreign investors are not dumb enough to buy into a badly overpriced market, but your broker is hoping that you are.
작성일2006-09-02 20:38
실제로 리얼터들이 여기 있는 내용처럼 이야기를 하더군요. "5.House prices don't fall to zero like stock prices, so it's safer to invest in real estate."
FALSE. It's true that house prices do not fall to zero, but your equity in a house can easily fall to zero, and then way past zero into the red. Even a fall of only 10% completely wipes out everyone who has only 10% equity in their house. This means that
house price crashes are actually worse than stock crashes. Most people have most of their money in their house, and that money is highly leveraged.
하여간 복덕방 님들은 무식한건지 모르는건지....
it's really time bomb.
housing bubble burst will cause a major blow to the us economy within a couple years.we can recall similar bubble burst in japan at the 80ths.
housing bubble burst will cause a major blow to the us economy within a couple years.we can recall similar bubble burst in japan at the 80ths.
중요한것은 지난 20년간의 기록을 보고 현제의 상황을 비교 분석 하는것이 너무 과장된 불안함을 줄일수 있다고 생각 합니다. 또한 통계적인것은 모든지역의 전반적인것이고 사실 우리에게 직접 영향을 주는것은 현지 주위 환경의 여건이 가장 중요 하다고 생각 합니다...
과거에도 그랬으니까 (상승) 앞으로도 그럴것이다 라는 생각은 위험 합니다. Nasdaq 5000 Point 를 바라보다 2001년 반동강 날줄 상상 했나요? http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EIXIC&t=my&l=on&z=l&q=l&c= (그런 전례가 없었죠)?
일본의 장기불황 당시 일부지역 집값이 반동강 날줄 누가 상상이나 했겠어요?